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"Hotez Refuses to Debate RFK on Vaccines" by Dr Joseph Mercola

 

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Hotez Refuses to Debate RFK on Vaccines

June 15, 2023, podcast host Joe Rogan interviewed1 Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for three hours. Contrary to so many other interviewers, Rogan allowed Kennedy ample time to discuss his views on vaccines without interruptions.

The facts laid out by Kennedy apparently rubbed vaccine scientist Dr. Peter Hotez2 the wrong way. In a June 17 tweet, Hotez posted a Vice article titled “Spotify has Stopped Even Sort of Trying to Stem Joe Rogan’s Vaccine Misinformation.”

Addressing the author of that smear piece, Hotez stated, “It’s really true @annamerian just awful. And from all the online attacks I’m receiving after this absurd podcast, it’s clear many actually believe this nonsense.” Never mind the fact that Hotez, in April 2020, was allowed to argue his pro-vaccine stance on Rogan’s show.3

Hotez’s fly-by smear attempt set off an extended back-and-forth Twitter exchange between Hotez, Rogan and Kennedy. In the video above, comedian Jimmy Dore reviews those exchanges.

Rogan Offers Hotez $100K to Debate Kennedy

Rogan replied to Hotez’ tweet, saying, “Peter, if you claim what RFK Jr. is saying is ‘misinformation,’ I am offering you $100,000.00 to the charity of your choice if you’re willing to debate him on my show with no time limit.”

Kennedy also chimed in, tweeting, “Peter. Let’s finally have the respectful, congenial, informative debate that the American people deserve.” Hotez replied to Rogan, “Joe, you have my cell, my email, I’m always willing to speak with you.”

Rogan, in turn, replied “This is a non-answer. I challenged you publicly because you publicly quote tweeted and agreed with that dogshit Vice article. If you’re serious about what you stand for, you now have a massive opportunity for a debate that will reach the largest audience a discussion like this has ever had. If you think someone else is better qualified, suggest that person.”

Hotez came back at Rogan: “Joe, if you are serious about addressing vaccines + the fact that 200,000 unvaccinated Americans needlessly perished during our awful delta/BA.1 COVID waves … because they fell victims to vaccine disinformation: I want to have that discussion.”

So, he’s willing to go on Rogan’s show again — by himself. But not with someone who knows the science well enough to challenge his claims.

Hotez Co-Funded Controversial Coronavirus Research

As noted by comedian Dore, Hotez will never agree to a public debate on vaccines, especially considering we now have evidence4,5 showing he funded risky gain-of-function (GoF) research on coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), from which SARS-CoV-2 emerged, all while vehemently arguing that COVID-19 could not possibly have come from a lab, and anyone who thinks so is a tinfoil hat-wearing kook.

Hotez’s dismissal of the lab escape theory is particularly ironic considering he received a $6.1 million grant6 from the National Institutes of Health in 2012 for the development of a SARS vaccine in case of an “accidental release from a laboratory,” “deliberate spreading of the virus by a terrorist attack,” or a zoonotic spillover event.

So, clearly, Hotez is no stranger to the possibility of lab leaks. He just doesn’t want anyone else to consider it. In fact, Hotez is apparently so fearful of public discussion that he’s called for scientists, like himself, to be protected under hate crime laws, basically making it a criminal offense to question science. Considering how often Hotez has been caught spreading misinformation, that would obviously be useful.

Is Hotez Ever Correct?

As an example of Hotez’s repeat offenses, Dore plays a compilation video of Hotez, starting with Hotez pointing out there are “unique potential safety problems” related to coronavirus vaccines in 2020. Then, something happened and Hotez never admitted the possibility of safety problems again.

Instead, he started pushing the single-dose Janssen shot, which later got pulled in several countries due to life-threatening blood clots. Then he started pushing the two-dose mRNA shots, saying they offer “long-lasting” protection. Then, when the boosters rolled out, he switched to saying “I’ve always said this is a three-dose vaccine.”

Then, he argued “a fourth immunization” would be necessary “to keep the country going.” And when hospitals continued to fill up with COVID patients, he told people to get the bivalent booster.

After that, he started saying yearly boosters would be necessary, only to later change his mind saying we may need a booster “every few months,” because the boosters “aren’t holding up as well as we’d like.”

He also pushed the COVID jab on young children, claiming COVID was “picking off young people like we’ve never seen [before].” With a track record like that, proving yourself wrong every few months, criminalizing critique would surely be nice.

Hotez Refuses to Debate RFK

Rogan replied to Hotez, “Again, I’m going to ask you very clearly, are you willing to debate Robert Kennedy Jr. on my podcast?” Twitter owner Elon Musk got in on the action, tweeting that Hotez won’t debate Kennedy “because he knows he’s wrong.”

Other Twitter users and members of the public then decided to sweeten Rogan’s initial offer by adding their own donations, and by 9 a.m. EST on June 18, the pot had reached $1.52 million. Still, Hotez could not be tempted to stand up and defend his claims.

Instead, he went on the MSNBC show Rising Reacts and said he wasn’t willing to participate in an event that would get turned into “The Jerry Springer Show” by having Kennedy there.

As noted by Twitter user Collin Rugg, “How can we possibly trust the so-called experts if they don’t even have the ability to defend their own positions?” and Richard Welch, who tweeted, “They can’t be wrong if they’re never debated. The echo chamber is good for their sanity and credibility.”

Meanwhile, mainstream media continues its effort to undermine Kennedy, not by countering his statements with actual evidence, but rather through character assassination.

In the video above, now-independent reporter and political commentator Tucker Carlson reviews how Rogan’s interview with Kennedy unleashed a “full-blown category-5 hysteria typhoon” in mainstream media, which resorted to describing Kennedy as a “lunatic, Nazi and extremist supporter,” simply for questioning the role vaccines may play in the massive rise in allergies, autism and chronic diseases among children.

Hotez, One of the Most Shockingly Hateful People in Medicine

Hotez has made headlines a number of times through the years, typically delivering some kind of hateful rhetoric. He’s publicly stated he wants to “snuff out” vaccine skeptics,7 for example, and in May 2021 called for cyberwarfare measures to be deployed against people who share vaccine safety information.8

Hotez has repeatedly spewed vitriol at parents of vaccine-injured children, and called for physical harm and imprisonment of people who don’t agree with the one-size-fits-all vaccine agenda.

He’s not above casting an evil eye on other scientists either. As reported by journalist Paul Thacker in an August 9, 2022, Substack article titled, “Peter Hotez Sees Aggression Everywhere But in the Mirror”:9

“Patrolling scientific discourse, Hotez has a knack for discovering ‘antiscience’ in anyone who disagrees with him. Jeffrey Sachs, economics professor at Columbia University and chair of an international commission on COVID-19, charged in a wide-ranging interview10 … that the National Institutes of Health and allied scientists were impeding an investigation into how the COVID-19 pandemic started …

Hotez went on the assault, tweeting that Sachs, as leader of the Lancet Commission, did not represent the views of science. Much like a Pentagon general wrapping himself in freedom and the flag to demand more federal monies for another foreign war … Hotez has been shrouding himself in the mantle of science to denigrate anyone who questions taxpayer funding for dangerous virus research by the National Institutes of Health.”

In his article,11 Thacker goes on to review several other bizarre incidences involving Hotez. For example, he referred to the scientific experts invited to testify before Congress as “fringe elements” testifying and promoting “outlandish conspiracies.” So much for Ph.D.s and med school. He also accused Sen. Rand Paul of promoting conspiracies.

Here’s the take-home: The reason Hotez rails against “antiscience” is because he can sense the danger the research community and vaccine industry are in.

If SARS-CoV-2 is conclusively proven to be a lab creation, it would put a massive spotlight on scientists involved in dual purpose viral research. Gain-of-function research may be banned altogether (as it should), which would sink many a career, including his own.

Similarly, public acknowledgement that the COVID jabs are a public health disaster would permanently and perhaps lethally injure the vaccine industry. So, all that hateful rhetoric, and the refusal to have a discussion with anyone of an opposing view? It really comes down to protecting his own self-serving interests.

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"The Real US Goal in Ukraine" by Karen Kwiakowski

 

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Source: Lew Rockwell

The Real US Goal in Ukraine

US state media – the NYT, WP, NPR, and the main TV news corporations – cautiously broaches topics they refused to touch a year ago.  We are learning that Nazi and racist ideologies are popular in Ukraine. We now know the US state department, with German and other EU and NATO assistance, schemed against Russia when they signed on the Minsk agreement in 2014, a noble lie in the neocon fashion.  We know, from mainstream media that the so-called Ukraine spring counteroffensive has begun, after much US and NATO urging, and is failing at every turn, at a great cost.

We are now allowed to see glimpses of the dwindling Ukrainian population, and with it, their economy.  Indirectly, we understand that there is a growing desperation in Kiev – for money, for weapons, for NATO and EU membership.  The actions of the Ukrainian army and its leadership, attacking Moscow with drones, raids into Belarus, attempts to cause nuclear contamination in Eastern Europe though attacks and sabotage of their own Ukrainian nuclear power stations and major dams are being noted.   While I believe Seymour Hersh on who did Nordstream, the convenient story of a heroic team of Uke divers doing the job had a valid purpose, to provide the Ukrainian voter with a ray of hope and heroism.

That is, if they still had voters in Ukraine. 

The casual observer of this war, 17 months in, notes physical and emotional exhaustion, and political desperation.  The orgasmic excitement expressed by US death cult in Washington the last Saturday in June was revealing.  Not of their various “goals” in Ukraine, or their fanatical Russia-hate – but that their long dry spell is beginning to make even neocons desperate for a bit of “good news.”

Neocon war is unpopular, ugly, venal.  Worst of all, it is unsuccessful – meaning instead of ending in triumph and celebration, it persists as a confusing, contradictory and costly problem multiplier.  We’ve seen this before.  Neocons are the Dylan Mulvaneys of American politics, albeit with less sincerity and self-awareness.  When it’s your influence that has destroyed the effectiveness of and any residual honor in US foreign policy for the past 70 years, as well as bankrupting the nation – the writing is on the wall.

Or it should be.  We’d probably be better off having our country led by a beer company.  Even Anheuser-Busch’s crippled instincts would not have led to the present situation in eastern Europe.

Biden is planning to send cluster bombs to Ukraine, and yes, they are indiscriminate, horrific, outlawed in 120 countries, and immoral – but – wait for it – the decision to use them is entirely Ukraine’s.  Biden and Blinken and Nuland and Sullivan, and half the Senate and half the Congress – well, they don’t have a thing to do with “Ukraine’s decisions.”

Unless Kiev or a European ally, or NATO member wants to see about ending hostilities, making peace, making Ukraine a safe place for Ukrainians to live – well that’s strictly verboten, forbidden by Washington, cannot happen, is not allowed.

We apparently have a shit ton of MK-20s in the Pentagon “warehouse.” Where else are we going to use them?  Some contracting officer, or a set of uniformed “really smart” people are due a promotion once their bosses find out they got the US taxpayer to pay for cluster munitions a second time, now as tax-funded aid to “Ukraine.” The per unit cost for the Ukes today is a probably half what we paid Textron (inflation adjusted of course) originally, but hey, you wanted government to act like a business, and in war it does – complete with that extra set of books in the safe.

Biden is an old man.  But imagine, if you will, that you have a child, and that child lied constantly, never took responsibility for his most obvious transgressions, played with deadly toys, and on top of that – had several undeniable special needs.  What would we do?  Some of us might institutionalize, most would certainly medicate and counsel, and all of us would lovingly try to make sure he didn’t kill or maim anyone.

Citizens, of course, cannot serve as loving stewards of government – it’s not that kind of relationship. We share no caste, and have no heritage, with our 21st century government.  We cannot believe what it says, we hate what it does, and we owe it no obedience. The fascinating thing is that these words will shock many good Americans, but they do not shock our rulers, who understand the relationship accurately, and proceed accordingly.

Which brings me back to the US goal in Ukraine.  It is destruction, and not the creative kind.  Ukraine completely destroyed as a free state, to be used as a dead thorn with which to poke Moscow.  The neocon tea-talk is mostly about how dead and deconstructed Ukraine will be in service to that US goal – do we create a 200 kilometer wide plain of mines and barbed wire, a super-47th Parallel, managed, secured and farmed by international contractors, do we have the Poles administer the western territories, and what shall we do about Kaliningrad?  Do we dare to eat a peach?

To end on a happy note – as we must – there are many excellent solutions to the Ukrainian problem, and many people understand it – in and out of government.  RFK, Jr in his first campaign speech told a story of how they cleaned up the Hudson River – many angry fishermen without fish and livelihoods at a public meeting began to offer solutions of violence, and terrorism – to give the corporate polluters a taste of their own medicine. Then a guy mentioned a fact – what the polluters were doing was already in violation of an existing federal law – why don’t we enforce it?  It was a key to peaceful improvement.  The law – for our nation and its rules-based order – often seems like a joke.  But when Switzerland just stopped tanks going into Ukraine, they did so by citing the law. I imagine if the 120 countries who have banned cluster munitions also have laws on the books that would serve peace, and help contain the savages in Washington.

If Ukrainians must live with their future, on Ukrainian territory, they should indeed be the ones deciding their next steps.  Their Ukraine should not be subject to cowards, mass murderers, and profiteers in Washington and London, or in Kiev – with its flush of money and luxury stores thanks to the wages of proxyism.   If Ukrainians leave the war to the US, and the UK and Germany, and Poland – there will be no Ukraine left at all.  They will tell their grandchildren what once was, and what was lost.

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